injett
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Post by injett on Dec 25, 2009 10:36:21 GMT -5
The new movie will definitely expose the band to new people and turn them on to the band. Does anyone think after all these years the recognition the band will be getting might change some minds of people who hated the band back in the day?
I always wondered if Patti Smith gained any respect for Joan Jett or Lita Ford as a solo artists. Joan played Patti Smith on her radio program a couple years ago. Never really understood why Patti hated the band so much anyway, was she jealous or just didn't like the way they used their sexuality? But didn't Smith like Suzi Quatro....she used her sexuality.
It would be way cool if some more famous artists that have never mentioned the band step forward and admit they were influenced by the band....like maybe Madonna will tell her fans where she got the idea of wearing a corset on stage.
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Post by joejett on Dec 25, 2009 15:55:57 GMT -5
A few years back I read an interview with another one of Patti's enemies...Deborah Harry. According to Deborah, Patti was VERY competitive back in the 1970s. Deborah went on to say that she had spoken to Patti recently and that Patti was a lot nicer. There's also a Blondie documentary where Jimmy Destri mentioned that everyone in Blondie was a big fan of Patti Smith but Patti was NOT a fan of Blondie. Apparently she once barged into Deborah's dressing room and told her that there was only room for one of them. As far as the Runaways are concerned, I don't think she gave a s*** about their sexuality. What concerned her was the fact that they were competition. As far as Patti was concerned there was only room for one female rocker...............HER!! I've been a fan of Patti's for years and have never heard her compliment Suzi Quatro in any way shape or form. The few that she's complimented were ones who were in the business long before she was....like Grace Slick or Marianne Faithfull.
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Post by litigiouslaguna on Dec 30, 2009 12:52:34 GMT -5
I love it that Patti was such a sharp-clawed climber ... really flies in the face of her ethereal poet-chick shtick (although I guess she was the black sheep pop poetess, as opposed to, say, Joni Mitchell or Stevie Nicks). I really think her photo op with the Runaways, where she says "f**k the Runaways!" through clenched teeth, should have made the film. It's classic.
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Post by litigiouslaguna on Dec 30, 2009 12:54:15 GMT -5
Oh, and I also have never heard Patti compliment Suzi Quatro, and I was a big fan of both. Can you site a reference? I'd love to have context. It's possible she was just backing a fellow Detroit girl, although Patti didn't move to Detroit until she and Fred got together.
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Post by oldmanlarkin on Jan 1, 2010 16:59:08 GMT -5
Patti Smith lumps in with Marianne Faithfull and Nico in the also-ran discount bin, languishing in the dust-covered obscurity at the back of the store. Except unlike the other two, Patti never even mastered the ability to use a razor, or discover the hidden secrets in a bottle of Nair. When you compare her career to Lita Ford's or Joan Jett's, it is like comparing the film careers of Pee wee Herman to that of Richard Burton. So in the end, what ever Patti Smith had to say about the Runaways was completely irrelevant, and gone into the vast wasteland like a fart in a windstorm.
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Post by injett on Jan 1, 2010 17:50:45 GMT -5
litigiouslaguna, I was asking if Patti liked S.Quatro, I wasn't sure. Someone once posted that on a message board I read. It sounds like you and joejett are good fans, so if you followed her interviews over the years and it really happened, you probably would have read about it...so I bet it was not true.
I have read about the photo op with the Runaways and Smith, I think from Jackie's website. What was this photo op for? Were all the Runaways there? I'm surprised that Lita didn't backhand the bitch...or at least give her some choice words back. Always hate when artists I like fight with each other.
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Post by crave on Jan 1, 2010 21:06:25 GMT -5
Actually oldmanlarkin, Patti is quite a respected musician, poet and writer. Fine if u don't like her, but she has a career in music that goes far beyond the fact that she doesn't shave...last time I saw Joan, she also had pit hair.
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Post by Hawkeye on Jan 2, 2010 13:29:14 GMT -5
True. Patti has a right to dislike anyone. Artists fight. Women in music don't band together. It's not an utopia. Just because people are artists, they are still people. We really haven't evolved all that much have we? Look at the divorce rate among the rich/popular/powerful.
People who are good at what they do and are well, nasty about it rise to the top. Kill or be killed. Patti took that mentality (I suppose) and here she is-legendary. If you really look at the world, and humanity, that is how we are wired. Peace, love and good will is great in theory, better in practice, but if everyone does not do it then you have us as a species. Hell, look at congress. Just sayin'
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Post by fallspeed on Jan 2, 2010 20:39:54 GMT -5
I do get tired of hearing about musicians fighting with each other. What a bunch of big egos; though maybe the conflict helps to create better music, I don't know.
Oldmanlarkin, I'd have to disagree. Patti's done a hell of a lot good music. (Playing "Revenge of Vera Gemini" with BOC in my head right now).
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Post by dagtoking1 on Jan 2, 2010 21:35:29 GMT -5
They played a remake of Because The Night in my spinning class a while back. At first I thought it was Patti because the song sounded the same but alas it was not. Why would anyone want to remake a song like that which is classic; is nothing sacred? Sheesh!
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Post by sunnydey on Jan 2, 2010 22:16:22 GMT -5
Must have been 10,000 Maniacs' unplugged version. I think they meant it as tribute to Patti.
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Post by crave on Jan 3, 2010 8:49:57 GMT -5
That version is horrible.
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Post by sunnydey on Jan 3, 2010 11:14:32 GMT -5
I kind of liked it but then I'm a fan of Natalie Merchant. Don't get me wrong, I still like Patti's version better.
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Post by isitdayornight on Jan 3, 2010 14:17:44 GMT -5
A group that I would consider very closely related to The Runaways is Girlschool, but don't think I have ever heard any of the members of either band comment about one or the other. Their music leaned a little more toward heavier rock/metal, but musically they were much closer to The Runaways rather than say The Go-Gos.
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Post by injett on Jan 3, 2010 22:57:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't know if either band has commented on the other, but their fans have. I like both. I think Girlschool were better musicians but The Runaways were better singers and performers. I think The Runaways just had better songs and their sound was more aggressive, even though Girlschool was faster. I think Girlschool were more glam rock than metal.
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