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Post by bri0032 on Jun 13, 2009 15:31:46 GMT -5
Too bad you, or anyone else, couldn't convince Jackie to opt in. Once again, the movie is based on Cherie's book. Jackie was the bassist when Cherie was in the band, so "every bassist" being represented would not be accurate. I think they want the movie to be as accurate as possible and I, for one, am glad about that! Gus You've got a point there, Gus. But I also hope that they go beyond the book and show the Runaways career after Cherie leaves. Then it would be even better than I'm expecting (which is a lot)
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Post by rknron on Jul 7, 2009 23:57:04 GMT -5
I think that Jackie is left out due to previous legal action against Cherie. I saw The Runaways live 14 times in the US, back in the day, never once did I see anyone spit in their direction, some guys maybe were drooling, but no spittin'. The spittin' allegedly happened in Europe.
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Post by jettford on Jul 8, 2009 18:00:01 GMT -5
I was thinking about this the other day; ("...the movie is based on Cherie's book"). We heard a while back that the movie was going to be based on Cherie's book. That would mean that the film would probably center around Dakota Fanning as she is playing Cherie. But most of the photographs are of Dakota/Kristen and then the shots of the whole "band". If I recall correctly, Cherie's book has a sizable chunk on her Runaways career but then goes on to chronicle a good amount of her life afterwards. And as far as i know, the name of the film is "The Runaways" (according to IMDB as opposed to the article I just read on Lita, where that writer calles it "Cherry Bomb"; but there is a picture of the cast member holding a script that says "The Runaways") as opposed to "Neon Angel: The Cherie Currie Story" or something. I was wondering if it started out as Cherie's story and has morphed into more of a Runaways biopic. I have a feeling (and of course I don't know, as I haven't read the script - I'd KILL for a copy though, i'm dying!) that the movie is based on maybe the section of Cherie's book that centers on The Runaways? Thoughts anyone? I do wish that Jackie was the bass playing character in the film...I'd love to hear an updated quote from her (as was posted in that article on Lita today) as to why she opted out...I would think it could be the deal that she was offered financially...I have no idea, but I'm just sayin'...
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Post by bri0032 on Jul 8, 2009 18:29:38 GMT -5
I think Floria used Neon Angels as the basis for the screenplay and didn't want the whole movie to focus on Cherie, but the whole band (while still focusing on Joan and Cherie's relationship.) As much as I'm dying for the script, I'm not sure if I would take a copy if one was offered to me. I want to be surprised in the theater and not see what's coming other than the things that're obvious (Joan and Cherie love-making for example )
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Post by jettford on Jul 8, 2009 19:26:20 GMT -5
i think so too, bri... i think if someone offered me the script i'd be done reading it before i could say "thank you so much!!!!" (;
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Post by Hawkeye on Jul 8, 2009 20:00:45 GMT -5
The rumors are this: Joan did not want to or couldn't do her own bio, so when Kenny decided to do this movie Cherie's memoirs were optioned. (Reportedly for a pittance) Then as executive producers, Kenny and Joan had script approval. (As executive producers, and knowing how protective Joan is of her image, I would bet dollars to feathers that Joan not only had a hand in, but approved Kristen's casting. Cherie is not listed as a producer, and according to my sources, is not treated as one. The movie is based on many of the things in Cherie's book- but the film ends with the end of the band and the rise of Joan Jett. The film is also very "Jett Centric" IE- it does NOT follow the book in every instance. This film will basically be "The rise of and the making of Joan Jett" As far as the bassists go- if you had an accurate representation of each person, the movie would be 6 hours long and everyone would get confused. Yes, I have read the script, no, I won't give it out- or post excerpts. It's possible that what I was shown is not the shooting copy, but from what I have seen, it looks like it is. I'm betting that Cherie's revised version never is re-printed, but that a writer is brought in to tweak the script, add more Joan Jett stuff, and is released as the Joan Jett story, or as The Runaways's story. Why would the producers pay Jackie or Lita for life rights when you can go by someone else's memories- and keep the cash?
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Post by kelson on Aug 27, 2009 0:49:52 GMT -5
The only female bassist in The Runaways who recorded with Cherie was Jackie Fox.
(I say "female" because a male bassist recorded the first album with The Runaways. Jackie Fox was in the band, but she had been a guitarist, and was learning bass, and was not allowed by Foley to record)
Micki Steele was before Cherie joined the band, and Cherie left the band before The Runaways recorded with Vicky Blue. Cherie probably played some live dates with Vicky, but that was about it.
Having any kind of movie about Joan/Cherie and The Runaways would be totally bogus if a Jackie Fox character is not included.
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Post by Hawkeye on Aug 27, 2009 21:15:44 GMT -5
The only band members who played bass were Joan and Lita.
Jackie didn't play in the studio, and neither did Vicki. Read the band's liners on the Cherry Red Re issue Cd's. It's all there.
ETA- In the Signed Line ups*
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Post by deadendj on Aug 28, 2009 0:03:37 GMT -5
actually it's Jackie on Queens of Noise, Live in Japan and Flaming Schoolgirls. It was only the first album that Kim wouldn't let her play on, and even then he had her come in to teach Nigel Harrison her parts.
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Post by jettford on Aug 28, 2009 1:13:50 GMT -5
Also, I think I remember hearing that Vicki played on the song "Waiting for the night" (just the song, not the whole album). I could be wrong, anyone else hear that?
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Post by Hawkeye on Aug 28, 2009 13:35:55 GMT -5
No, Jackie did not play on Queens. She did not play in the studio- Oh, where did I hear that, from Sandy, yeah, Sandy West.
Live- yes. Studio, no.
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Post by crave on Aug 29, 2009 11:20:01 GMT -5
I always wondered why they didn't just get someone who could play bass instead of using Nigel Harrison on the first lp. Kinda defeats the "all girl band" thing.
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Post by Christy The Admin on Aug 30, 2009 11:34:35 GMT -5
Jackie could play bass. Studio productions can be weird. You might be surprised how many members of other bands either don't play on their albums at all, or only play parts.
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Post by wilkinss77 on Apr 7, 2010 9:40:07 GMT -5
the audience didn't spit when i saw the runaways over here. some of them did, however, shout 'get your tits out' & 'get 'em off'- till joan & lita flipped the bird at them!
re: bass playing on 'queens'- i can't see anything in the cd's notes saying jackie didn't play- & if she didn't why not? by then she'd become good enough, & she did co-write 2 of the songs. seems odd to me that they'd leave her off the 2nd album.
so, how come vicki didn't play on most of 'waiting for the night', & none of 'and now-the runaways'?
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Post by fallspeed on Apr 12, 2010 19:51:55 GMT -5
That's the first I've heard Jackie didn't play on "Queens." Reading Jackie's blog/Myspace page, she tells a lot of stories about being in the studio while it was recorded. You listen to the Cleveland Agora bootleg from summer 1976 and she had certainly learned to play by that time.
You watch the Japan videos (no possibility of overdubbing there) and her bass playing is fantastic!
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